Part One: A conversation between Dino Guglielmelli of PlanetOne Company and Jeff Kanter of Healthy America

Dino Guglielmelli :07 I've been doing nutraceutical manufacturing since 93. Jeff Kanter 0:11 Yeah. Jeff Kanter0:11 Taking a look at your materials was quite impressive. Dino Guglielmelli0:15 Thank you. Dino Guglielmelli0:16 But the narrative hasn't changed in almost four decades. Dino Guglielmelli0:19 We're still asking the same questions. Dino Guglielmelli0:21 How is medicine going to change? Dino Guglielmelli:23 How are we going to get to where we're preventative? Dino Guglielmelli0:26 You know, I talk about this, and I lecture all over the world, and there's really three buckets. Dino Guglielmelli0:31 One is prevent prevention. Dino Guglielmelli0:32 The second one is treating diagnosis or symptoms, and then the third one is regenerative from any sort of trauma, whether it be PTSD or injury. Dino Guglielmelli0:43 And they're really separate buckets, and we need to look at them separately. Dino Guglielmelli0:48 And so, you know, if we want to get prevention, it has to be an economic model that everybody can sign into. Dino Guglielmelli 0:54 We've been talking about this economic model forever. Dino Guglielmelli 0:57 If the insurance companies would cover people and give them discounts for being preventative and cover dietary supplements, we wouldn't have nearly as many people ill. Dino Guglielmelli1:07 But they're just not gonna do it. Dino Guglielmelli1:09 So it becomes an economic equation where the consumer, you know, they don't have the money to buy things that are gonna be. Dino Guglielmelli1:17 That are gonna be preventative. Dino Guglielmelli1:19 So they're just waiting until the brick wall hits. Dino Guglielmelli1:21 Okay, now they hit the brick wall. Dino Guglielmelli1:23 Now they're in that mouse wheel. Dino Guglielmelli1:27 It's a meat grinder that now has them by their short hairs. Dino Guglielmelli1:31 And now they're going into a protocol that is archaic. Dino Guglielmelli1:36 It doesn't work. Dino Guglielmelli1:38 It's still in the textbooks. Dino Guglielmelli1:40 And it's actually almost herding cattle into this. Dino Guglielmelli1:44 Into this mindset of, my doctor knows what's best for me. Dino Guglielmelli1:49 Nobody else does. Dino Guglielmelli1:51 Yet it's not working, but yet they just continue to do it because it's covered on insurance. Dino Guglielmelli1:56 So. Dino Guglielmelli1:56 And now bucket two becomes that economic model. Dino Guglielmelli2:00 Then you about prevention. Dino Guglielmelli2:02 Okay. Dino Guglielmelli2:03 By the time they get there, they're out of money. Dino Guglielmelli2:06 So they spent so much money going to the doctor and on insurance and on their health that now when you're trying to be regenerative to where, okay, we can. Dino Guglielmelli2:16 We can accelerate the healing process with very, very viable ingredients. Dino Guglielmelli2:21 They can't do it because they're already beyond understanding it. Dino Guglielmelli2:25 So if we could just. Dino Guglielmelli2:27 If we start with prevention, it's a great conversation to have. Dino Guglielmelli2:31 And most people think that they're okay as long as they don't have a problem. Dino Guglielmelli2:36 So how do you get beyond that? Dino Guglielmelli2:38 So, you know, we can talk about, okay, you can take cerebralysis. Dino Guglielmelli2:42 I'm a manufacturer, by the way. Dino Guglielmelli2:44 Now I back Brands that I believe in, nutriments is a brand that I strongly believe in and I manufacture all those products, but I manufacture products for a lot of people and I try to be as, you know, try to raise the bar as much as possible because I don't care what I'm selling it to my customer for, I care about what the consumer is going to get and I want to make sure they're getting what they're paying for. Dino Guglielmelli3:07 And so that is my responsibility as a manufacturer. Dino Guglielmelli3:10 So whether it be preventative, whether it be diagnosis symptom related or whether it be regenerative at the end of the cycle of all the trauma, it's still the same equation for me, which is try to give people the best product at the best possible price. Jeff Kanter3:24 Absolutely. Jeff Kanter3:25 It's been interesting to watch that because I've been engaged. Jeff Kanter3:27 You know, my falling into this was kind of accidental. Jeff Kanter3:31 I had largely been selling health insurance for 30 plus years, but probably about 12 years ago when the Affordable Care act passed, I was exposed to health sharing. Jeff Kanter3:42 Christian Health Share Ministries was the kind of the leading edge of that at the point. Jeff Kanter3:46 And effectively that was just a lower cost product that was kind of like credit union is to a bank. Jeff Kanter3:52 I mean kind of get into the same solution but a little different methodology. Jeff Kanter3:55 And so, you know, as a salesperson was one more great thing to sell. Jeff Kanter3:59 But what quickly happened was doctors started calling me asking how readily I could bring that into their office and educate their parents, patients to transfer them off of health insurance and on a sharing so that they could be a doctor again and do exactly what you said. Jeff Kanter4:15 Instead of having to just try to wait for some people to be sick so I could create a billing event and get reimbursed by Blue Cross or whatever. Jeff Kanter4:22 Meanwhile all the money was out on their end because they had to spend all the money and then wait for the reimbursement from Blue Cross. Jeff Kanter4:29 So with health sharing it was cash on the barrel head, no network. Jeff Kanter4:33 So suddenly I'm like completely changed my mind. Jeff Kanter4:35 And I've had political backgrounds in the libertarian world, so I was always very keen of free market economics and the like. Jeff Kanter4:42 So suddenly it matched up with my philosophy and it just kind of kept going and going from there. Jeff Kanter4:47 And I kept meeting other people along the way and got involved the Free Market Medical association and all that kind of led like a lot of these types of things to today. Jeff Kanter4:56 And so what's been great about it is one of the people we met along the way was in Vita Health. Jeff Kanter5:00 Are you familiar with them? Jeff Kanter5:01 From Scottsdale, Arizona and Vita E N V I T A. Dino Guglielmelli5:07 I've heard of them, but. Jeff Kanter5:10 They've been about 26 years around. Jeff Kanter5:12 They're on the radio in the last year and a half pretty readily and they built their reputation around. Jeff Kanter5:17 I hate to use the word cure, but curing people from cancer and Lyme disease and a lot of other stuff where they were given a 30 day you're about to die type you know, sentence from a major medical entity and they go to in Vita and lo and behold they turn them around and they're doing great. Jeff Kanter5:33 And I actually have some personal experiences with some friends that literally had their lives saved by them. Jeff Kanter5:39 And so then the interim, what they have created is a health insurance program to do exactly what you and I have been dreaming and demanding to happen. Jeff Kanter5:48 And forget about correcting or improving or remediating Blue Cross or any of those companies. Jeff Kanter5:56 It's just forget it. Jeff Kanter5:57 There's no saving that or pharmaceuticals or any of the. Jeff Kanter6:00 Or the conventional medical school. Jeff Kanter6:02 It's time to replace them all. Jeff Kanter6:05 And so that's really what's happened. Jeff Kanter6:06 So Envita's launched two programs. Jeff Kanter6:08 They have a health insurance version which is for very large groups and then we have all the way down to individuals what they call America's Health share. Jeff Kanter6:17 And it's a dream come true because supplements and almost everything alternative qualifies under their program as a legitimate expenditure. Jeff Kanter6:25 Any doctor, any hospital from maternity is a good example. Jeff Kanter6:29 You can do home births, doula birthing centers, stem cells, everything that you can medical cannabis, everything is permissible under their platform and their program, which up till now is strictly cash only. Jeff Kanter6:44 So unless you had a private jet, you were not going to in Veda for your cancer treatment. Jeff Kanter6:48 But this plan allows them to allow regular people to come and they have what they call navi matrix, PLO and biolytics where they manage all of your vital signs through their offices in Scottsdale. Jeff Kanter7:02 And then you're able to figure out in three years I'm going to become diabetic or whatever. Jeff Kanter7:06 And they completely develop a whole protocol to prevent all of those things from happening to you. Jeff Kanter7:12 They actually have Regenex there too. Jeff Kanter7:14 So there's no knee replacements or hip replacements. Jeff Kanter7:17 They regenerate all those joints right now as it is, not every instance does this work, but you know, they're at that cutting edge. Jeff Kanter7:26 So this is clearly what's been exciting about what's happened and what's turned the thing on its head is these opportunity zones. Jeff Kanter7:33 And to give you a quick breakdown on that, when Trump was in the first go round. Jeff Kanter7:37 Tim Scott, Senator Tim Scott from South Carolina proposed enterprise zones where they would take these inner city black communities and create huge tax credits for people to bring in and help develop businesses that would be owned by those people living there. Jeff Kanter7:52 So they would be able to create legacy businesses and get off of welfare. Jeff Kanter7:56 And it did quite well, but it had some glitches and it also was going to sunset. Jeff Kanter8:00 Well this is why I said these things change quickly. Jeff Kanter8:03 So in July of this this year they passed the big beautiful bill. Jeff Kanter8:07 Well buried inside that was making these opportunity zones what they were going to now be called permanent. Jeff Kanter8:14 But also to name every single black college 150 plus as permanent opportunity zones and add rural with even greater incentives than in rural. Jeff Kanter8:25 Well, one of the gals that came to our event in January, I'm sorry In July of 2025 we had an exhibitors area where we had red light companies, vaccine free blood bank, nanotechnology companies. Jeff Kanter8:39 All these guys were displaying their wares and some were there to raise money. Jeff Kanter8:42 Well, she launched a clinic in South Carolina and put all of those modalities into a single location and it was doing extremely well. Jeff Kanter8:50 So Lombo, they had the opportunity to open one in a community of 8,000 people in Virginia where the closest pharmacy or minute clinic or doctor was an hour and a half away way. Jeff Kanter9:00 So they launched this clinic. Jeff Kanter9:02 Now they have 20 people in line every single day when they go to opit and they just had their first lymphology transfusion patient in there. Jeff Kanter9:11 I think it was yesterday or the day before. Jeff Kanter9:13 So they've been like hitting all these milestones and we just had consummated in Las Vegas because lo and behold there's seven opportunity zones in Las Vegas what's going to become an international tourist mecca for alternative health care off the strip in Las Vegas. Jeff Kanter9:32 So I got 150 acres or some massive existing facility that they're converting into this stuff. Jeff Kanter9:39 And then also not related to me personally, but within what we're doing. Jeff Kanter9:43 They're working with Alice Walton, she lost a nutrition based medical school and she's footing the bill for the tuition for all the students for the first four years of the first class. Jeff Kanter9:55 So kind of what you're describing is finally begun to become reality and these opportunity zones with like the fantastic set of circumstances because just imagine this picture here, we've got this reject, we have, I'm sorry we have this opportunity zone in Cleveland, Ohio and, and I don't know how well you know Cleveland, but there's a Certain pocket. Jeff Kanter10:17 And if you kind of make a little square out of it, in the one corner you've got the Cleveland Clinic and University Hospital, which is like a monolithic giant monstrosity. Jeff Kanter10:29 Case Western Reserve University, which is a major college. Jeff Kanter10:33 The historical architectural district, where we've got the Cleveland Orchestra, the Car Museum, the Botanical gardens. Jeff Kanter10:41 Just a huge cluster when Cleveland was one of the top cities in the world. Jeff Kanter10:45 And then on the fourth corner, a crack neighborhood. Dino Guglielmelli10:48 Yeah,. Jeff Kanter10:48 And the crack neighborhood's like a block away from the Cleveland Clinic, but yet it's a medical desert. Jeff Kanter10:53 So we're going to put up one of those clinics in there and then we're sister sitting. Jeff Kanter10:57 That was Sugar Craig, Ohio, which is near Akron Canton, which is the largest Amish community. Jeff Kanter11:03 And they're going to be doing regenerative farming there, where they sort of already are, but more under our kind of banner. Jeff Kanter11:09 And we're going to intern the kids from Cleveland, go down there to learn to be farmers. Jeff Kanter11:13 And at that time they're going to doubt, excuse me, devote a portion of it to grow hemp. Jeff Kanter11:19 And this guy's going to put, because it's an opportunity zone, one of their processing facilities where they're going to be making these wood substitute that they're doing to turn those pallets into that wood into pals for Costco. Jeff Kanter11:32 And then also we have a guy who does EMF remediation. Jeff Kanter11:36 So we're going to be doing a data center with that technology built into it all into these opportunity zones. Jeff Kanter11:43 But up till now we only were helping like all of these medical people and the like. Jeff Kanter11:47 But because it's an opportunity zone now I need plumbers, electricians, architects. Jeff Kanter11:52 So it brings everybody off the benches of every element of work and employment in America into these clean slate areas. Jeff Kanter12:01 And with 8,700 of them, we probably have half a dozen underway since, since just July. Dino Guglielmelli12:08 That's fantastic. Dino Guglielmelli12:09 I'd love to see this model to expand and to, you know, again, when it gets to natural products, it's about the efficacy of the products and if they're working properly. Dino Guglielmelli12:20 And you know, it's, you have to be very, very selective about what products are being used and that they're targeted exactly for that. Dino Guglielmelli12:27 I don't believe there's a silver bullet for anything. Dino Guglielmelli12:30 So, you know, and there's a lot of products out there that will make that claim that you can do it. Dino Guglielmelli12:34 And I just hope that they, the people that are running these organizations from an advisory or from a diagnostics or from a preventative platform are keying in on the right products. Dino Guglielmelli12:48 The second thing is that it's really, really great what's going on, but everybody has to be in concert in this, and you have a lot of states that aren't going to allow this stuff to happen. Dino Guglielmelli13:00 So we don't have equality across the board in this arena because we have a lot of headwinds that are coming up against us. Dino Guglielmelli13:09 When we're making high quality product, we're doing the right thing. Dino Guglielmelli13:12 We end up being the. Dino Guglielmelli13:15 The, you know, the. Dino Guglielmelli13:18 The poster boy to slap around. Dino Guglielmelli13:20 We end up being the mat instead of, you know, and then the people who are doing things not ethically right end up, you know, getting all the attention. Dino Guglielmelli13:31 So the attention goes to the wrong place. Dino Guglielmelli13:34 And. Dino Guglielmelli13:34 And these are the sort of headwinds that I'm trying to avoid. Dino Guglielmelli13:37 I'm going to tell you guys a story, and this is going to hit really, really well with you, Jeff. Dino Guglielmelli13:42 So about 15 years ago, I was making a ton of products for Walgreens, and you may want to air this. Dino Guglielmelli13:48 You may not. Dino Guglielmelli13:48 Kelly, after you. Dino Guglielmelli13:49 After you listen to this, you may decide to cut this portion, and I don't care. Dino Guglielmelli13:53 So I was making all the OTCs, from their hydrocortisones to their lubes to their antifungal, I was making for everything on the west coast, all in private label Walgreens. Dino Guglielmelli 14:05 And so one day, the head of quality at Walgreens comes into my office and she says, dino, we love what you do. Dino Guglielmelli 14:12 We want you to be our poster boy and we want you to manufacture all our products. Dino Guglielmelli 14:15 Now, I had GMP license, OTC license, all the. Dino Guglielmelli 14:18 All the licenses, all the certifications because I had to write qualified. Dino Guglielmelli 14:22 We were testing everything to nauseam, and she says, you know, you're doing everything great. Dino Guglielmelli 14:28 We want you, but you have to stop offering all these choices. Jeff Kanter14:33 I. Dino Guglielmelli 14:33 Said, Elaine, I'm not going to do that. Dino Guglielmelli 14:35 I'm going to give people choices. Dino Guglielmelli 14:37 I'm going to give people choices because I don't believe that, you know, you can take 15 milligrams of St. John's Wort. Dino Guglielmelli 14:43 It's going to do anything for anybody with depression. Dino Guglielmelli 14:45 I need to give them 500 or, you know, echinacea, same thing. Dino Guglielmelli 14:48 She goes, no, you're going to follow the German pharmacopoeia. Dino Guglielmelli 14:52 I said, elaine, I'm not going to follow the German pharmacopoeia because it doesn't work. Dino Guglielmelli 14:56 I know it doesn't work, and you know, it doesn't work.